A Descending Spiral author Marc Bookman joins Austin-based journalist Maurice Chammah (Let the Lord Sort Them), criminologist Reuben Jonathan Miller (Halfway Home) to discuss a carceral system designed for people within it to fail, primitive punitive practices, and the death penalty itself: a decades-old Supreme Court ruling that once deemed it unconstitutional; the practice's resulting resurgence, especially in Texas; and its future.